Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

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Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

Postby vxla » Fri May 25, 2012 11:05 pm

In "Para Titi" on D' Palo pa' Rumba [BIS 745] by Los Muñequitos, the quinto player bends the pitch in his solo at 4m11s. What technique is he using to do that? Or is it a second drum?

Here's a link to a reference-only recording.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3107300/04%20Para%20Titi.mp3
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Re: Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

Postby bongosnotbombs » Fri May 25, 2012 11:21 pm

This can be achieved by pressing down on the head of the drum with the elbow of one arm, similar to how one uses the thumb to raise the pitch of a bongo in the martillo. It's a good technique but best used sparingly on congas IMHO.
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Re: Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

Postby vxla » Sat May 26, 2012 2:57 pm

bongosnotbombs wrote:This can be achieved by pressing down on the head of the drum with the elbow of one arm, similar to how one uses the thumb to raise the pitch of a bongo in the martillo. It's a good technique but best used sparingly on congas IMHO.


Yes, I know how to bend the pitch on a drum. Have you listened to the solo? Check it out, if not...it's a two-handed solo, certainly.
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Re: Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

Postby guarachon63 » Sat May 26, 2012 4:51 pm

I can think of two possibilities: Raising the drum off the floor with the legs changes the pitch of the drum, so it's possible the quintero is doing that for the 30 seconds or so of the solo.

The position of the quinto in the mix also changes during that segment until about 4:39, which makes me wonder if they didn't "punch in" another quinto solo on top of the original one, maybe the player was dissatisfied with the original solo or something.

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Re: Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

Postby windhorse » Sat May 26, 2012 6:01 pm

Yep, dubbed.. :shock:
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Re: Pitch Bending Quinto Solo in Los Muñequitos "Para Titi"

Postby jorge » Sat May 26, 2012 10:51 pm

Like Barry said, the quinto part shifts in the soundstage from left center to right center for the solo. The secos also go up in pitch along with the tones and it almost sounds like a different drum and different hands. The tempo also speeds up and then slows back down, the cata part disappears then starts in again. The transitions sound like someone digitally altering the tempo to make it fit. Maybe Freddy got particularly inspired one day in the studio and played a killer freestyle solo with just clave without listening to the track. That could even be a clip of Titi or Jesus playing that they put into the recording for spiritual reasons. I can't distinguish the solo style among the 3 of them, especially since it is a dedication song to Titi and Jesus and Freddy learned from Titi, but Titi used to play some rolls like that.
By the way, listen to the words, Victoriano Espinosa "Titi" (RIP/ibae) was one of the greatest quinto player of all time, also father of Eddie Espinosa the tumbador.

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