Building cajon

Use this forum to discuss about all the other percussions and/or to suggest a new specified forum to add

Re: Building cajon

Postby bongosnotbombs » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:41 pm

I used your cajon and Thomas' article as resources, but I cam across the dimensions for a cajon made and used by Clave y Guaguanco and I used those. Very similar just a touch smaller than yours and Thomas'. My friends larger one uses dimensions from a cajon made by Pacific Coast Percussion. He puts the dimensions on his website. It was the largest cajon dimensions I had and my friend wanted a big cajon. I wanted smaller for portability.
User avatar
bongosnotbombs
 
Posts: 2869
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:17 am
Location: San Francisco, Ca

Re: Building cajon

Postby bongosnotbombs » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:32 am

:arrow:
Last edited by bongosnotbombs on Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
bongosnotbombs
 
Posts: 2869
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:17 am
Location: San Francisco, Ca

Re: Building cajon

Postby bongosnotbombs » Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:23 pm

Actually it looks like Meinl beat me to it! :evil: :lol:
Attachments
CAJON+MEINL+HEADLINER+FLOWER+POWER.JPG
User avatar
bongosnotbombs
 
Posts: 2869
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:17 am
Location: San Francisco, Ca

Re: Building cajon

Postby roberthelpus » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:10 pm

You need a matching VW bus to transport that in.
User avatar
roberthelpus
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:08 pm
Location: Cincinnati

Re: Building cajon

Postby p.a.dogs1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:16 am

Here are some cajones, which I built with young people in an educational project.

Image

The conga-style cajones are made from birch plywood - 9 mm and 2,5 mm - the bass-cajon, where you sit on, from 12 mm poplar plywood, 4 mm birch plywood for the frontplate and 6,5 mm birch plywood for the resonance plate - sound holes in the bottom.
User avatar
p.a.dogs1
 
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 am
Location: Kiel (Germany)

Re: Building cajon

Postby Dicemanb » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:43 am

Nice looking cajons, what do they sound like? And welcome to the forum....always welcome.
Dicemanb
 
Posts: 178
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:28 am

Re: Building cajon

Postby p.a.dogs1 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:31 pm

Thank you for welcome. But it is almost 2 years ago when I registered myself here :P .

The sounds:
The biggest conga-cajon (diameter ca. 40 cm) has a very voluminous bass and is really an enrichment in any percussion ensemble. The next one (32 cm diameter) is not such convincing but the proximate one (28 cm diameter) is terrific. The smallest (26 cm diameter) sounds a little flat - maybe it is too high.

The bass cajon´s bass is comparatively dry and has more pressure.
User avatar
p.a.dogs1
 
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 am
Location: Kiel (Germany)

Re: Building cajon

Postby Thomas Altmann » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:59 am

Herzlich willkommen, Oliver!

TA
Thomas Altmann
 
Posts: 639
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:25 pm
Location: Hamburg

Re: Building cajon

Postby p.a.dogs1 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:10 pm

Danke, lieber Thomas :D .
User avatar
p.a.dogs1
 
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 am
Location: Kiel (Germany)

Re: Building cajon

Postby Ernesto Pediangco » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:22 am

Using these examples, considering they are crude models that you can have formed at any cabinet builders shop w/ quality laminates w/ dove tail joinery. While many crude cajons like these & like Peruvian & Spanish cajons, they simply use brad nails or screws. I suggest the use of adding a frame of hard woods over the top edges like an over laid frame you use as a drum edge, it can be slightly beveled to produce a better sound edge than just a broad flat one. Using oval head machine screws & nylon inserts into the hard wood sound edge frame, it becomes an easier Cajon to remove & replace the top playing surface. Some people laminate fiber glass w/ wood plys for more strength & every playing surface has differing tone qualities. Some guys wrap skinny rubber hose around the shell / body to assist in holding it firmly & when laying it down, the shell is protected. You can have open bottom tone hole, or add a laminate bottom like a bottom drum head for 2 drum, Bata drum effect and add a tone hole on the side closer to the narrow bottom of the trapesoid shaped cajon.
Ernesto Pediangco
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:12 am
Location: Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.

Re: Building cajon

Postby Ernesto Pediangco » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:25 am

bongosnotbombs wrote:Actually it looks like Meinl beat me to it! :evil: :lol:

OMG...junk ! Get a real Cajon from Peru. Gon Bops imports Atempo cajons from Peru ! Also...go online to fing Percusion Real in Lima , GREAT cajons as well. Asian cajons are garbage, you are better off building your own w/ a reclcyed speaker cabinet.
Ernesto Pediangco
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:12 am
Location: Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.

Re: Building cajon

Postby Ernesto Pediangco » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:28 am

p.a.dogs1 wrote:Here are some cajones, which I built with young people in an educational project.

Image

The conga-style cajones are made from birch plywood - 9 mm and 2,5 mm - the bass-cajon, where you sit on, from 12 mm poplar plywood, 4 mm birch plywood for the frontplate and 6,5 mm birch plywood for the resonance plate - sound holes in the bottom.

Very Nice !
Ernesto Pediangco
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:12 am
Location: Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.

Re: Building cajon

Postby bongosnotbombs » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:47 am

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:
bongosnotbombs wrote:Actually it looks like Meinl beat me to it! :evil: :lol:

OMG...junk ! Get a real Cajon from Peru. Gon Bops imports Atempo cajons from Peru ! Also...go online to fing Percusion Real in Lima , GREAT cajons as well. Asian cajons are garbage, you are better off building your own w/ a reclcyed speaker cabinet.

I did build my own.
User avatar
bongosnotbombs
 
Posts: 2869
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:17 am
Location: San Francisco, Ca

Re: Building cajon

Postby p.a.dogs1 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:19 am

Hi Ernesto, thank you for your inspiring comment.

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:I suggest the use of adding a frame of hard woods over the top edges like an over laid frame you use as a drum edge, it can be slightly beveled to produce a better sound edge than just a broad flat one.

There are hardwood ledges along the top (and also bottom) edges inside. This made it possible to use screws with a little distance from the edges and round them comfortably (look to the foto:).

Image

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:Using oval head machine screws & nylon inserts into the hard wood sound edge frame, it becomes an easier Cajon to remove & replace the top playing surface.

Our playing sufaces are glued and srewed. The screws act as stabilisators, because pure wood glue does often not resist harder playing practices. There are theories that a combination of screws and silicone (removable) between playing surface and corpus could be perfect.

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:… when laying it down, the shell is protected.

We will use stripes of a rubber mat, which is made to put it under washing machines.

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:You can have open bottom tone hole, or add a laminate bottom like a bottom drum head for 2 drum, Bata drum effect and add a tone hole on the side closer to the narrow bottom of the trapesoid shaped cajon.

f. e. instruments of Valter Percussion:
http://www.valterpercussion.com/CongaCajn.htm
http://www.valterpercussion.com/BatCajn.htm

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:Get a real Cajon from Peru. Gon Bops imports Atempo cajons from Peru !

I know. But there are so many different requirements depending on the preferred sound-character and even haptic feedbacks - it is almost impossible to recommend any maker or model for everybody.

Ernesto Pediangco wrote:Asian cajons are garbage …

Many spanish cajones as well.
User avatar
p.a.dogs1
 
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 am
Location: Kiel (Germany)

Re: Building cajon

Postby bongosnotbombs » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:33 pm

I wrote a document a while where I compiled dimensions of several Cuban bajo style cajons.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37257108/Bajo ... Dimensions

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B9ljQy ... ist&num=50

It can be read and downloaded for free.
User avatar
bongosnotbombs
 
Posts: 2869
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:17 am
Location: San Francisco, Ca

PreviousNext

Return to Other instruments

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests