Cuban ISLA Vid

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Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby nickpilarski » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:39 am

I just wanted everybody to check this out. Here is new video of ISLA drums being played in cuba by cubans. Mario at ISLA said after a the trip they got an endorsement from Los Rumberos de Cuba as well as many others on the island. Isla drums are now Cuban!

Note: these are new drums and have yet to be broken in.

Check out the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RCmz8xJRzg
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby Chupacabra » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:03 am

Respects go to the players and the fine sounding Islas they are playing!
I have a question that maybe someone can help me with:
These Isla batas are lug tuned, as are are many other traditional hand drums that are built using modern methods. I am curious to find out why they have the rope wrapping around the shell and looped around the mounting plates of the instruments. I've seen this a few times and thought I would finally try to get the answer for it here.
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby ABAKUA » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:09 am

Its been covered here before, it helps to prevent sliding off ones lap while playing and also for decorational purpose giving them a more authentic look. Sonoc was famous for doing it for years with their bata, see below pic:

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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby Chupacabra » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:31 am

Thank you for replying Abakua. I was thinking that was the reason but it's always good to get an answer from a qualified source instead of going on assumptions!
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby windhorse » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:01 pm

I ordered a set of them last week. Can't wait until they arrive!
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby bongosnotbombs » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:47 pm

windhorse wrote:I ordered a set of them last week. Can't wait until they arrive!

Right on Dave, I think my set of Isla bata will be ready later this month.
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby Thomas Altmann » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:24 pm

nickpilarski wrote:I just wanted everybody to check this out. Here is new video of ISLA drums being played in cuba by cubans. Mario at ISLA said after a the trip they got an endorsement from Los Rumberos de Cuba as well as many others on the island. Isla drums are now Cuban!


Nick: In another thread you recommended these batá because they sing. For a moment I considered responding that not everybody wants every drum to sing. I play SONOC's like the ones Abakua posted, and for me, I couldn't think of anything better: I just love the dry and funky sound. I don't like the sound of the LP's for that reason; they have a funny kind of ringing along with their tones and slaps.

But, after seeing and hearing the youtube video, I totally agree with you concerning those ISLA's. They sound like some of the best drums that I have heard in Cuba.

By the way, Cusito was the singer on my presentacion al tambor during my Santo.

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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby TONE74 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:51 am

Is it me or are those bata tunned kind of high? Maybe is just that I'm not as familiar with bata as you guys but I prefer mine lower. Is this the usual tunning?
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby Thomas Altmann » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:21 am

@TONE74:

I'm a passionate advocate of the low sounding batá. I would definitely tune the itótele down. The iyá didn't have a fardela, I suppose; so this would would suffice to make the sound of the iyá. But the okónkolo is sweet, sounds like a bell; I like that.

This would be my preference. However, nowadays many drummers tend to tune the batá up, if they can; for instance with hardware-tuned drums. This tuning is hard to obtain on a set of "Havana-style" laced, leather-strung traditional batá. It is a little easier on nylon-rope-tuned batá with triangular, or diamond-shape lacing. The Chinitos seem to use that. Search for Antoine Miniconi on the web. I think he built a set with this system, and they sound (too) high (for me).

I don't think there is anything like a "usual tuning", and I wouldn't want that. Tune your drums the way you like it. There are enough models to be examined on the numerous recordings, old as well as modern.

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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby bongosnotbombs » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:40 am

I also thought they were tuned a little high, I prefer the tuning on that album Afro-Tambores Bata
you so generously provide Thomas.
I think the higher tuning is more modern. That is good insight on how the different tuning methods may
have influenced the sound of the bata over time.
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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby Thomas Altmann » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:14 am

BNB:

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I just have to correct this very quickly: I did not provide the music on the recording; that was either Barry (guarachon63 on this board) on http://esquinarumbera.blogspot.com or Patrice "Patricio" Banchereau (http://echuaye.blogspot.com). All I did was collecting information about the recording (see: http://www.ochemusic.de/artgiro.htm). I understood that Patrice and Barry collaborate a lot, and I have learned so much from their web pages ... I have no idea where they found all the info and footage!

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Re: Cuban ISLA Vid

Postby bongosnotbombs » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:28 pm

Thomas Altmann wrote:BNB:

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I just have to correct this very quickly: I did not provide the music on the recording; that was either Barry (guarachon63 on this board) on http://esquinarumbera.blogspot.com or Patrice "Patricio" Banchereau (http://echuaye.blogspot.com). All I did was collecting information about the recording (see: http://www.ochemusic.de/artgiro.htm). I understood that Patrice and Barry collaborate a lot, and I have learned so much from their web pages ... I have no idea where they found all the info and footage!

Thomas

Ah your right, it's esquina rumbera that has the download, but you have that excellent article. Anyways, when I receive my bata from Isla, the sound on that album is what I will be trying to tune them to. I know it's going to be a long journey though....
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