LP Rubber low stands

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Postby Joseph » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:19 pm

Having read other threads on thrones, seats, stools...
I was never aware of the fact that prolonged sitting on these type of seats can cause irritation to the prostate.
The poster stated that bicyclists, who spend long periods sitting, use seats with hollow groove in them for just that reason.

In that regard, have a look at this item.

This one truly is a throne !

Hollow core to avoid prostate issues.
Comes with a handy, integral gig bag.
Folds flat, very portable
Multipurpose




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Postby Congadelica » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:02 am

:laugh: :laugh: now thats funny :D

oh and for the recod , eeryone know zebra is coolest , nice learoard print and that one chunky shekere too ???




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Postby Gallichio » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:36 pm

Joseph
I gave mine away because I did not like them. Your modification is a great idea.
All the Best!
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Postby caballoballo » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:05 pm

Oh ! Joseph, that was a great idea. The Conguero in the band I play came to the last rehearsal with a set of those, we try to make them work with the same result & complain, they did not hold in place & were not good for sh!t. In spanish no servian pa' un CARAJO.

I wonder who the fock in thailand is encharge of designing something that is not going to work & them put in on the market. He should be fire.




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Postby brogar » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:17 pm

I created an alternative to the rubber feet that I've been using for several years when I want the slightly raised sound. I cut out 14.5" diameter circles of 1/4" tempered masonite (I think they also call it hardboard). I was placing the drums on these to increase the resonance but when I positioned the drums the circles didn't move with them so I attached 6 rubber bumpers to the circles around the perimeter of each conga base. Then I could easily slide the drums and circles into position. When I tried the LP rubber feet and found them too unstable I saw that they only held the drum 1" off the floor. I purchased some 1" X 1" oak trim and cut it into 3" lengths. I drilled each piece with a drill press and placed them between the circles and the bumpers using longer screws. The drums are now the same distance off the floor as with the LP rubber feet but they also have a resonating surface under them. Of course this isn't a traditional sound but it works well in certain situations. When I pack up the circles go into the conga bag after the padded disc covering the head and so they might provide some extra protection. There is nothing extra to carry. This basic idea could be used with different materials and measurements, like maybe thicker plywood. If anyone is interested I could give more detail on assembly, parts, and an easy way to attach the bumpers.
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Postby burke » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:24 pm

Hey brogar - welcome to the forum BTW - sounds interesting - could post a pic? I'm having a little trouble visualizing it.

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Postby brogar » Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:40 am

Here is one view. I can seem to only attach one picture at a time (I'm quite primitive with computers). I'll do a second response with one more picture.

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Postby brogar » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:06 am

Here is another picture of one of the stands. I sometimes use them as resonating boards without the spacers that raise the drum off the surface; just the circles with the bumpers and the drum sits flat on the board. For most of the time I've been using these i've had 1/2" spacers instead of the 1" high spacers pictured. The sound with the 1/2 " spacers is less boomy but is slightly more resonant than having them flat on the floor. With different length screws depending on the spacers used (or no spacers) you can experiment. I'm guessing some people might want to apply some kind of a finish; I never got around to it.

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Postby burke » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:52 pm

Very interesting ... very cool.

May try this someday.

Thanks Brogar
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Postby Gallichio » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:51 pm

Very nice idea.
All the Best!
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Postby Diceman » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:58 pm

Brogar,

Welcome to the forum.

Nice and very elegant.
Can I suggest an esthetic idea? If you put the rubber 'pegs' so they fit on the inside of the drum, you would only need three of them and they wouldnt be seen. Just an idea, waddayathink?

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Postby brogar » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:09 pm

I like the idea of putting the bumpers inside the drum. If you go with three bumpers you might want to still use all six of the spacers or the drum can tip in the direction between spacers more easily (I've tried it). The base of the drum is already smaller than the overall width of the drum; using three spacers creates a triangle base of support that has less area than the area of the circular base of the drum, thereby decreasing the base of support. Using four spacers will still be less stable; five is fairly stable but it is easier to divide the circle into six parts using the radius of the circle. When I made these I went for the easiest means. After dividing the circle into six parts, I put the drum on the disc and measured from several sides to center it. Then I held a bumper against the base of the drum on each of the six points and drew around the bumper to mark it for drilling. This made a snug fit; it would be a little harder to get the same fit on the inside of the drum but might be worth the effort. Each bumper/spacer has a single screw (countersunk) coming up from the bottom of the disc, through the spacer and bumper; the nut is on the top of the bumper, wedged into the counter sink intended for the head of a screw going the opposite direction.
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Postby BMac » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:57 pm

Did somebody say patent?

35 U.S.C. 102(b) prevents patentability in the U.S. of an invention if a patent application is not filed within one year of a printed publication. Publications on websites are generally held to be printed publications.

The clock is ticking. A silent alarm goes off one year from your posting information about your invention. Once the alarm goes off, if patenting activity has not begun, any possible patent rights are lost in the U.S.

Many foreign countries have an absolute novelty standard. That means publication activities immediately prevents patentability in some countries.

But here is some good news. The U.S. operates under a first-to-invent doctrine ... not a first-to-file doctrine. That means someone cannot legally view your publication and seek a patent for your invention in the U.S. Other countries have other standards.

But here is some bad news. One can view your publication, make some changes ... maybe add some improvements ... and then legally patent the modified invention. The dividing line between the original invention and the improved invention is a bit subjective ... it involves the concept of obviousness ... see 35 U.S.C. 103.

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Postby Joseph » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:11 pm

you must be an attorney!

My line about a patent was snark...a joke!

I don't think I'll make my fortune making metal rings for LP rubber feet......market is too small!

I hereby bequeath to the world, unlimited rights to reproduce my LP rubber feet ring stabilizer. <snark!>

Thanks for the legal lowdown though :;):




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Postby pavloconga » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:19 pm

Joseph wrote:I also bought 3 sets of those rubber feet, and as they came out of the box, hated them. :(
Very unstable, subject to shifting in position.
I liked the low key aspect of them and after spending about 50 bucks on them, I wasn't about to just give up and toss them...
...so I modified, er...adapted ???

Great idea Joseph,
A friend of mine used to use those LP rubber feet in gigs we played together. Whenever I played her congas I often had trouble with those damn rubber feet and swore I'd never use them again!

A good solution to the problem.

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