Santana Jingo lo ba rhythm

[Karlo]

Hi,

I am new here and trying to play the congas for a year now. I had a question about a song I want to know the name of the rhythm. it is jingo lo ba of santana, is it based on a Cuban or African rhythm? really curious? or invented by that percussionist, I have the cd called 1969 santana sessions where you can hear the ghost notes clearly in the beginning and I think! I dont hear a heel tip but only tips so I assume it is African.

If somebody could help me? Thx for the time,

Karel

[zaragemca]

I ya ya yaiii Karlo,the song is from Babatunde Olatunji.

[Karlo]

I ya ya yaiii indeed, didn't knew santana did so many covers... anyway found the website of Babatunde Olatunji and I am very interested in the rest of his work, never heard of him before...but than I still have a question doe sthis rhythm have a name? thx!

[zaragemca]

It is and Arara-Ewe, percussion Pattern(West Africa).

[JohnnyConga]

After careful analysis of Santana's version, not having heard it in a long time I see/hear, that Mike Carabello is playing his form of a "segundo" pattern, while Chepito is playing a "latin rock" version of guaguanco" who also takes the quinto solo. Now I listened to Baba "Tunji's" version and there were no jimbes on it, just congas and what the brother was playing there I believe to me is a "made up" part while Baba played his 7 foot tall "tree drum", he may have called it "Ngoma". It is also a possible Arara-Ewe rhythmic pattern....."JC" Johnny Conga....HAPPY GOBBLE GOBBLE

[zaragemca]

Saludos JC,I'm glad that you related this pattern to the 'segundo' in Guaguanco,becouse it is rooted in the Arara-Pattern, we do the three voices of that specific pattern with the Djembes and Dun-Dun(real-voices),in my drumming -ensemble and when jamming with a Guinea-drummer in Galveston.Even when Babatunde don't use Djembe I know (since I was in Cuba learning this foundation), that a Djembe is part of this pattern.Arara-Ewe.The dun-dun was originally played in a 'horizontal mode',and later with incorporation of different sizes was switched to the vertical set-up, but you would not be able to change the pitch(using the other head-side of the drum).



Edited By zaragemca on 1101677073