Tres Golpes

[mangorockfish]

Is the Tres Golpes played in a Guaguanco rythm kind of like the Marcha and Montuno? If not can someone explain it to me and anyone else who doesn't understand it. I'm still trying to learn this. Thanks
Mangorockfish

[ABAKUA]

It is one of 3 components to the Guaguanco/yambu pattern.

Base', Tres Golpes and the quinteo (solo like part of the quinto drum).

Traditionally a 3 part and player pattern, when playing the rythem of guaguanco/yambu one plays a combination of all 3 parts to form the melody/pattern of guaguanco.

So in response to your question, playing only the tres golpes section of guaguanco, would be like playing half the tumbao pattern in marcha/montuno.

It is common to hear in some recordings the 2 open tones of the tres golpes part in tumbao playing. The conguero may play straight tumbao on the main drum (quinto or conga) and play the 2 open tones of tres golpes on the tumba and back to tumbao on the main drum.

Hope this helps..

[ralph]

the tres golpe, has a different pattern than the marcha tumbao, it is played differently and distinct, i would say that the tumbador part is more similar to the marcha tumbao.

[zaragemca]

Greeting to the brothers,yes the tres golpes is a different pattern which have been created to interact with the Salidor,(base),and the clave, the pattern of the Marcha,or Tumbao is a different one which have been created to interact with the bass musical phrase in the Marcha,Montuno. Dr.Zaragemca

[franc]

can any of you explain what is meant by the ''tres golpe''?? and how it fits in the pulse?? is it because you hear three distintive open tones?? one open in the tumba and two open in the conga/? my best!!!!! franc :rock:

[ABAKUA]

Tres Golpes - is the name of the part played on the conga.

Ok, in the guaguanco pattern, You can hear an open tone on the tumba then 2 open tones on the conga, then an open tone on the tumba and a base tone with the palm on the conga.

The 2 open tones on the conga mixed with the heel/tip and slaps/mutes etc and the base note is the pattern called tres golpes which is played on the conga, when played in combination with someone playing the base pattern on the tumba and a person playing quinto, forms the essesnce of the rumba in guaguanco or yambu. Of course clave, cata, chekere etc and more can also be found as part of this ensembe

Tres Golpes - ie 3 hits - refers to 2 open tones and a base note.

Of course there are also mutes, heel/tip, slap combination parts also in this pattern.

Tres Golpes is also a traditional name for the 'conga' sized drum.

ie

Quinto
Tres Golpes (conga)
Tumbadora (Tumba)

[windhorse]

Also, they're are at least two styles.
We have learned them here as the "Havana" and the "Matanzas", which may or may not be true. :laugh:
The one we call the Havana style has slaps nesting around and missing the "one", and the second tone of the two is nested right between the third and fourth strikes of clave.
The one we call the Matanzas style hits a bass on the one and uses the palm touch method and only one tone right on the three, or just before the third strike of clave.

[franc]

is like this the havana style,
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[franc]

guys, in the first bar the open tumba goes on the fourth beat and also in the second bar. is it not???? franc, áche to all!!!

[windhorse]

guys, in the first bar the open tumba goes on the fourth beat and also in the second bar. is it not????

I'm not sure how you're counting,, but the way I think of it is: 1e&a2e&a is the first bar, and 3e&a4e&a is the second bar,, so it all adds up to 4 for the entire measure.
In this counting,, the tumba open tones would be on the & after the 2 of the first bar, and the & after the 4 of the second bar.
They are both the fourth "down" beat of each bar, so yeah, that'd agree if that's what you meant.. :;):

[franc]

k-pax
my count is 1 & 2 & and so on.. yes !! we are both right . mucho áche to you, franc