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Postby zaragenca » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:32 pm

I have observed a lot of articles in reference to Oyo,(Nigeria),which don't reflected what it really means at that time....For the general people to understand the whole basic principals, I have to say that it never happenned,(not even in Ile/Efe,or Benin/City,(actual Nigeria), the true most important cities in Yorubaland,the situation of the whole 'Yoruba population',,....Since the time of Oduduwa it was always some Yorubas leaders and landlors in control of thousends of slaves and workers,so many tribulations which took place around those Yurubas/kingdoms didn't really happenned to the Yorubas but to those around them,(they have to speak some Yoruba,and were dressing like Yorubas,(becouse the trade),and were collectibly called Yorubas.....When Oduduwa arrived to Ile/Efe some of the people,(Edo/People which were there), did agree with the new establishment,(The Yoruba/religion based in the Ifa/Mandate),and some of them didn't,..triggeting the first migration from Ile/Efe,(after the arrival of Oduduwa)..Some of them went to the west,(as Obaluaye,(with the Araras),and the prince Nana, went,(to actual Ghana),some of them went south forming what would be called later,Benin/City,but not body went up north becouse they wanted to stay withing the Forest, where the more fertile and cultivable land was established.....They were able to set up the most sophisticated agricultural enterprise,not only for feeding,but also for the trade,...food and medical/herbal products,using irrigation system and tools made out of metal....By the time the portugueses arrived there,they were working with....Gold,brass,iron,wood,ivory,animal/skin,jade,terracota,fish/bones,,textiles,shells cowries,salt,palm oil,fruits,stones,ambar, and have extensive kowledge of astronomy,anatomy and filosofy...to be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:33 pm

The visualization of Oduduwa,(which was followed by others Yorubas),was to send their decendants,(relatives), to form their own villages and through the fomentation of agricultural and manufacturing products,to create a trade,(societies were created which were in charge of conducting the caravans to sell products to the West and to the East as far as Iboland)...To that effect, beside,Ile/Efe and Benin,(in actual Nigeria),villages were created like;Ketu,Dahomey, Ijeha,Onitsha,Ekiti, Asaba, Warri, Ondo,Agbor,Issele Icu, Idah, Itsekiti,Owo,etc...From the begining the Yorubas were against the raiding of slaves out of Africa,(through the north/corridor,first,and later the transatlantic voyage).They need the people to grow the agriculture,manufacturing,construction and military enterprises,(in time of war),and the rest of people as customers...and it was established that Yorubas, could not be set up as slave,neither be sold to the traders,so the permanet raiding of slave done by the,'Aro Society',(Ibibios and Igbos),brought a continual fight of Yorubas to the Iboland..to be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:35 pm

OYO....Obaniyan was the Oba of Benin/City,(in actual Nigeria),when the rading of slaves and the assaults of the Yorubas Trade Caravans in the north side of Efe and Dahomey,set up the stage for immediate action,Benin was located too far south,so Obaniyan took upon himself to set up a military village in what is known now as Oyo/kingdom,to secure and to stabilize the Yorubas trade in the north and west of Yorubaland....The importance of the mission took him to leave his son, Aweka,(which was stiil a child in Benin with some advisors),and taking the Efe-staff,(the Staff would entitle him to to collect,financial and human resources from the others Yorubas villages),in order to set up the military enterprise.IT WAS NEVER HIS PURPOSE TO SET UP A YORUBALAND HEAQUARTER IN Oyo,...he made clear that in case of death his body and the 'Staff' would be returned to Efe...neither he requested any of the societies from Efe,or Benin to moved to Oyo....Oyo didn't have a Yorubas root,becouse notbody from Yorubas lineage moved there before Oramiyan went there to set up the military enterprise...but in the prosess of setting up the military enterprise,some lands from the Nupe Kingdom,(which had some control of the area at that time ), was incorporated,creating and antagonic situation with the Nupes...but during Oramiyan time there the village would have the benefit of the trade and some financial commitments to set up the military post,(Oramiyan created a military legacy in Oyo),..but once he was not longer there the Yorubas force and population decreased and a new tribulation with the other Yorubas Villages was created since they were thinking that once Oramiyan and the 'Staff were not longer there they were not submitted to obligation with Oyo.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:23 pm

Continuing...The Oyo Mesi,(counsil of Lords),was a permanent corruptive administration with set up a distance with the Yorubas villages for the following reasons..1- They did keep suppourting the trade of slaves out of Africa which was against the Yorubas guideline..2- They could depose the Alaafin from the Throne for any manipulative reasons,which was against the Yorubas guideline,(and the Bashorun-Gaha,did that throughtout the time of Oyo being a kingdom)..(The Yorubas provide for the continuing ascention of descendants to the leadership)....3- Several times Yorubas villages were raided from the Oyo villages,(taking/slaves)....4-They imposed the practice of forcing the death of the Alaafin' son when the Alaafin would die..(in the Yorubas guideline, after somebody is properly initiated and accepted by the Orichas into the Yorubas religion,notbody has jurisdiction to force him/her into suicide)....5-The Oyo connection with the 'Aro Society',(which have been taking slave out of Africa through Igboland)...6-The Oyo Mesi,(depending on what time frame is chosen),were compose of Nupe,Haussas,Fulanis,Kano,Igbo,Ibibios,etc., which were not Yorubas....Also there was the Ogboni Society which have some administrative influences...Oyo was never the heart of Yorubaland,(the village was to too far to the north out of the Forest,the importance for the Yorubas was to set up a military post,(Oramiyan),to stabilize the trade in the north part of Ife, and that they could be added as customers......Now for whom Oyo was really important?....For the Haussas,Fulanis,Kano,Borgu,etc.,slaves which all the time were running there for refuge during raiding.....For the Haussas-Lords which moved there when the Haussas Muslim pushed them out,...For the Haussas Muslim when the Fulanis Muslim pushed them (also), out...For the Nupe Kingdom becouse Oramiyan took some territory from them when setting out the military post...And for the 'Aro Society' which were using that 'corridor' for their slave trade to the north.....The heart of Yorubaland up to 1897, was the Ile/Ife/Benin corridor,(in Nigeria), and the diamond of Yorubaland,from the 1300 to 1897, was Benin/City,(in Nigeria).To be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:05 pm

Continuing..After the Yorubas oposing to support Oyo/village and Yorubas moving out from there ,(of Yorubas, Oyo only have the influence), during the Ajaka time of being the Alafin,a worrior from Nupe,(Shango),attacked Oyo and reconquered the territory......Shango: The name was not Yoruba,..neither unique..it is a word rooted in Haussa/languages which mean 'worrior',and it was collectibly used by Haussas fighters.Even when his reignning didn't last long, a Nupe dynasty was established and another isolated little village in the far west,(close to actual Benin political line), was also conquered,(Egbado). They tryed to brake through south east,(Ekiti-Ife-Ijesha -corridor),but they couldn't,later they tryed straight down throught the Egba-Ijebu-corridor,but the gate was closed by order of Benin....After Benin getting into contact with the Portuguese, (and engaging in extensive trade),the Benin/Obas didn't need the Dahomey trade,and it was neglected so the Oyo people find a niche there in the far west,(conquering that territory)....Some scholar are trying to link Oranmiyan being a father of Shango the same way that Oduduwa was link at one point being a father of Oranmiyan,(both personalities were in a different time frames)....After the attack of the Nupe-Worrior Shango,..Oyo became a battle field among the Nupe,Haussas,Bornu,Fulanis, Ibibos and Igbo people, for control of the villages and the real Yorubas were observing the 'stage' from distance...After the death of Shango,....Ajaka with the help of Haussas,fulanis,Borgus,Baribas,and Gwandi people started fighting back and at one point regained the territory again....But again in around 1500,'Tsoede', another Nupe Worrior won the territory, ( during the Alafins Onigbogi/Ofiran),setting another Nupe dynasty and keeping the fight among the Fulanis,Haussas,Borgu,Igbos and Ibibios for the Oyo/village......Note,... next subject is going to be something with puzzle scholars both in Cuba and out of Cuba, 'How the name Lucumies came into the game'...to be continued Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:44 pm

continuing....After the victories of the Nupes over Oyo and several territories on the north and the connection with Igala,the Nupes were getting ready to jump down over to the Yorubas territory,(it couldn't had been in worse time),,,,Ife comminicate the situation to Benin/Oba,(actual Nigeria), and the 'SEALS' Force of the Yorubas was activated, the Oba Esigie,(1504/1550), himself wanted to take care of the situation, he went to the north facing the Nupies in Igala and the weeping was of royal magnitud.,(this was the second weeping), since Oba Ewuare,(1440/1473), did some weeping in the north from Idah, to Owo and Akure, and to Iboland,(to the Igbos),becouse the raiding of slaves out Africa trough the north/corridor.....Yorubas and Lucumies...to understand this issue better we need to see something,it was not that easy to get Yorubas as slaves, becouse upon proper initiation the Yorubas would be marked in order to be recognized,said that, after getting the slaves they have to be transported around Yorubaland to their traders and the Yorubas were constanly sending people to check the caravans,( the slaves were transported by walking),this situation by itself created an extensive cementery in the Sahara with the slaves which never arrived to their destination....The Yorubas upon initiation would have the distintive mark which would be recognized when checking them in the coast for transportation and anybody which would have been catched with a Yoruba would have been attack and killed......Lucumies.During several revolts which happenned in Oyo,Egba,etc., specially the one in 1797 in Oyo, the slaves which were involved in the revolts were sold as punishment,(they were not Yorubas becouse they were slaves,neither they have the distintive Yorubas mark),but they have some languages and influences so they were called collectibly Lucumies,(which is a contraction of two Yorubas word)...These people arrived to Cuba setting the first Lucumi/Cabildo which they name Chago Terum,(at that time the deity was only followed in Oyo, Egbado and the villages where the slaves had some tradition with him,( the Oricha was not a deity in the Yorubas villages),that incorporation into the Yorubas/Galaxy happenned in Cuba the same of other deities from the Araras)....to be continued.Dr.Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:31 pm

Continuation..Something related to the area was the transportation of thousands of slaves,(before the transatlantic trade),from Sene/Gambia,the Guinea Coast,Fernando Poo Island,Calabar and Angola to work at the Gold-factories which Portugal set up at, 'El Mina',(actual Ghana),creating a mixtification of Tribes in that area which diluted the Arara-roots there ...these people were collectibly called,Asante,(by Portugal),and Fon/Ewe, (by the Yorubas),.....The Obas of Benin,(Yoruba),continued the extensive trade with portugal and exchange of Ambassador..It was Oba Orhogbua,(1550-1578),which created the camp,(eko),Lagos for the control of the ships coming into Yorubaland for the trades,and by order of the Benin/Oba,the Ijebus and Egbas were in charge of controlling the corridor conducting to the interior of Yorubaland....Around late 1500's, the Nupe/kingdom was obtaining victories in the north and controlling the Oyo villages,this victories encourage them to moved toward the Ekiti/Ijesha corridor to attack it..one more time the Yorubas 'Seals' Force was activated and this time it was the Oba Ehehgbuda,(1578-1606) coming from Benin/City which provided another Royal weeping...Around,(1641-1642),to (1680- 16810,the emigration of Muslims from Bornu to Nupe is taking place creating the head/start which would change the game in the area later.. ..To be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:18 pm

Continuing...By 1700,the muslim movement were already taking ground in the Hausa-territory,(which ultimate pushed the Hausas-Landlord down to Oyo),also the british were wining the fight among the europeans in the head of Yorubaland),France was sided to the west,(actual Benin Republic)...Since the Yorubas had not longer interest in Dahomey,(becouse the extensive trade of Benin/City with the europeans),the Oyo kingdom capitalized on that opportunity by conquering the Dahomey,and smoll little villages isolated in the west,(Egbado),and some villages in the north around Oyo,(so between 1730 to earle 1800 those territoies were controlled by Oyo....The trade of slaves and goods between the coast and the 'north corridor',created some financial remuneration with grows the greed of the Gaha,(Soyiki),which wanted to control the power,,,so bewteen ,1754 to 1774,the Gaha did everything available to him,(including the removal of several Alafins)...But in 1774,Abiodun,(with the help of several military chiefs of villages),almost exterminated the Gaha and the whole family),and hold the control of Oyo as Alafin until his death in 1789..With the death of the Alafin Abiodun,..Kangidi,(another Gaha),took control of Oyo until 1797, that the Oyo-Mesi elected the Alafin Awole Arogangan...Becuse Abiodun almost exterminated the whole family of the Gaha-(Soyiki),when becoming Alafin,...Awhole, which became Alafin in 1797,ordered a punitive attack in the village of Iwere,(Iwere was the birthplace of Abiodun),but all the provincial military chiefs gained their ranking during Abiodun's reigning,and took the order as betraying,so a mutiny was set up among the military-chiefs,(Afonja,Adegun,Opele,etc),they went to Oyo,trigering the suicide of Awole,(it is said that he took poison)...to be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:20 pm

Continuing....It is said that in that situation in Oyo,Ojo Agunbambaru,(a son of the Gaha killed in 1774),which survived the attack at that time,also came to Oyo looking for the way to comeback to position in the kingdom by fighting against Afonja...Ojo was supported by people from Borgu,he went to Ilorin,(controlled by Afonja),but he was defeated and took refuge back in Borgu...The Oyo Mesi elected,Adebo as Alafin which died after for month,(possibly of poisoning),the next Alafin was Macu,which died ,or comitted suicide after been defeated trying to fight the Muslims which were conducting Jihad throught out Hausaland and pressing the Oyo villages,(this situation produced the immigration of thousands of Hausas to Oyo villages and deeper down into Yorubaland in the south...The Egbas slaves had a revolt which needed the intervation of the Ijebus,and the slaves captured in this revolt were sold,(as punishment) to the trades..the european knew that as slaves and having not Yorubas marking,'they were not Yorubas',but they have the influence of the culture,so they were collectibly called,'Lucumies',and arrived to Cuba with that 'tag'...The Spaniards in Cuba didn't know that this people were sold becouse the revolts,but soon the Spaniards find out when the Lucumy Cabildo in Cuba, started the revolts in 1812 which was called,'Aponte Conspiracy' and another revolt in 1835, which was directed by Hermenegildo Jauregui,(also from the Lucumi Cabildo)....Back into Africa,...The Muslims' Jihad was conquering the Nupe kingdom...Afonja,(the Aare Ona kankamfo of Ilorin),(provincial chief),was getting help from Muslims,(Mallan Alimi,Mallan Dendo and Solagberu),in recruiting a lot of Hausas and Fulanis muslims into Iloring..Afonja was told of the risked situation by,Fagbohun,(one of his commander),and Agborin,(his brother),but he was confident of his game....By 1817,Afonja proclaimed Ilorin,independent of Oyo kingdom...at that time,Majoto,(which was the Alafin of Oyo since 1802),ordered a punitive attack against Afonja,but with the help of the Muslims,the attack was defeated,that situation took power and authority out of Oyo and others villages also declared lack of subordination to Oyo....There were some slaves revolts in the Yorubas kingdom,(in Akure),and slaves/rading in Ekiti and Ijesha...so one more time the Yorubas 'Seals' force had to be activated....to be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:18 pm

Continuation...In this time the Oba of Benin was, Osemwede,(1816-1851),the expedition from Benin was conducted in,(1818-1823),with commanders,Ologbosere Imaran,and Ezemo Erebo,which provided another royal weeping to control some revolts and raiding which were taking place around Yorubaland.The Yorubas caravan society,(Ekhen Egbo),was set up to come from Benin to do trading in relation to,Tobacco,metal-objects,foreing goods and delivery of weapons..Dahomey was not longer needed so the new markets were at Apomu,(close to Ife),and Alade market,(which was close to Idanre),this were the trading points for Ife,Ekiti,Idanre,Ijebu,Egba,Owo,Ondo,Ijesha,Ise,Ak ure,etc.,with Benin...In Ilorin,with the death of Mallan Alimi and the raising to power of his son,Agdu Salami,(Afonja lost the control of Ilorin)..Afonja went down to the Yorubas kingdoms looking for support to drive the Fulanis and Hausas Muslims out of Ilorin,(did I say in this article that that the Oyo people were Yorubas?,...Not,...so the Yorubas refused and he was killed..Agdu Salami became an Emir,and now, Ilorin, became an Emirate of the Sokoto Empire...Part of Oyo was captured during Alafin-Amodo,(he tried to fight back and was killed),a lot of people from Oyo started coming down looking for refuge in Yorubaland and Ibadan..The next Alafin-Oluewu did get help from Ibariba to attack Ilorin but he was killed also,(during this time Agdu Salami requested help from Gwandu and Halilu,'an Emir',got the military force from Sokoto)...A decisive bettle took place in the Old Oyo in which the Oyo worriors were defeated,(around 1837)....In Yorubaland another slaves-revolt took place in the Egbas villages which was fighted by Ijebu and Ife,(at one point the Egbas found out that the missionaries and foreing traders were behind the revolts and they were expelled from the Egbas villages for 16 years). to be continued....(in the next chapter how the real Yorubas arrive in Cuba).Dr. zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:54 pm

Continuing...Around,1822,Pedro Blanco,(a sugar-mills owner from Matanzas),wanted to cut the middle-men in the trade and to have better opportuniry to chose the human-cargo,so he went to Africa,setting up the'Gallinas' trade in coordination with the king Siaka of Sierra Leone,so thousands of slaves which were thought to be coming from the Guinea-Coast,were arriving from Sierra Leone..Another lateral situation around that time was the war between the british and the Ashantees in relation to the gold-factories territories..The Ashantees defeated the foreign-army,(1824),and years later,(1864-72), the british,(with better weapondry),defeated the Ashantees and took control of that territory...Back to Oyo,..some of the people which were moving out of the territory controlled by Oyo,were arriving to Ile Ife,but as soon as they arrived,they found out that the treatment was the same as the one provided to slaves and workers,(becouse they were not considered Yorubas),this situation forced them to form the Modekeke-Ward,(out side Ife-city gate),creating the Modekeke-Ile Ife conflict...The Oyo people were setting in around 16 differents locations among them,(Ibadan,Ijaye,and in the 1830's,setting up the 'New Oyo' in the Yorubaland territory.....Yorubas In Cuba..The mayority of people with real knowledgeabout rituals and ceremonies,(Yorubas), arriving to Cuba,were females..Some of the small villages didn't have people with the knowledge of rituals and ceremonies for initiations,so these females would travel from the biggest villages to other locations to perform those affairs... During the 1830's and 1850's there were a lot of fighting and wars throught out Yorubaland,so when the males were in the battle-field,that situation would provide the opportunity for secuestration of these females and,(Ebi AtinuAyaba,Timotea Lantuan,Efunshe Warikondo,Monserrate-Obatero,Mariana-Ogun Nike,'Tula' Garcia,etc.,),arrived in Cuba,individually packed and in high secrecy..These women set up the root of initiations in Matanzas and Habana which multipled the Yorubas-religion in Cuba....The male with the highest knowledge in relation to Yorubas-affairs was Remigio Herrera,'Adesina',which came with the distintive Yorubas-marks and brought the Ifa knowledge,(Oracle and Dilogun),the drumming knowledge,(how to make and to play Batas),.implanting that knowledge in Matanzas and La Habana...Adesina, was in charge of officiating as Babalawo,(Ifa Oracle), in Yorubaland,in one of those trips,he was secuestrated,transported to Oyo,and later sold and transported to Cuba in secrecy..He arrived in Cuba from the late 1820's to the early 1830's..To be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:34 pm

Continuing...Even in Cuba,(where other religions developed early like, Bantu,Carabaly,Arara,etc.),the Yoruba-religion have to wait to take off becouse the slaves which arrived early collectibly called,(Lucumies),didn't have the knowledge of ceremonies and initiations which were performed in Africa by a select societies of Yorubas which were in charge of performing those affairs,neither there was somebody which the knowledge of the 'Ifa Oracle,' (which is an important fuction in that respect),but even when these women started arriving in Cuba,the Yorubas,(1830's,1840's,1850's),it was never a mass arrival,but a handful of females and a few males,(being the most important,'Adesina),and still at that time the initiations were restricted to the local Cabildos in Matanzas,(the Spanish-Governor restricted the movement of Afrocubans becouse they were scared after the Haitian-Revolts which took place around 1790's,and the revolts which took place in Cuba in 1812...but some scholars were confusing one practice and religion,(Yorubas) with the other...So when did the the Yorubas religion really take off in Cuba?...that is going to be cover next,together with another villages which also have been tag as Yoruba,(Ibadan),and they are link to the Oyo-people also...To be continued.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Mon May 07, 2007 9:34 pm

Continuation...Ibadan is highly linked to Oyo,so it is a necessity to talk about it when talking about Oyo....But to understand the whole situation in Yorubaland, we have to realise that since the time that the Portugueses got into contact with Benin/City,(Nigeria),in the 1470's,...foreign-countries,foreign-traders and missionaries were trying for the opportunity to brake the strong-hold of Yorubaland by Benin/City and to set up a headquarter in the heart of Yorubaland..Throughout 1830's the europeans and missionaries were creating strong-hold in Calabar-Dominion,(South East of Nigeria),..but in the west,The Ijebus,refused to allowed them into their territory,the Dohomeans didn't want foreigners in their territory neither,...foreigners could not get easily to Oyo becouse the Yorubas had control of the access routes from the south,and the north part of the territory was controlled by the Muslims....The Edbas were the one which open their doors to their territory,(which brought all the tribulations to them,(Edbas)...After the Edbas were forced to moved from their territories to Abeokuta,the foreign-traders and missionaries followed them there and also the 'Soros',(African-Christians from Sierra Leone),were bought into Abeokuta as resources for the missionaries....From Abeokuta the temperture could be monitored in relation of what was going on in the west of Yorubaland....It was the original idea of Ife to set up a contract-militar-camp,(for use as needed),encouraged by the example of Benin/City which had the Seals-Forces of Yorubaland,and could have been activated at anytime,but Benin-City,with extensive territory were holding all the control of the military forces,...in the Ife case,there were not daily control of these slaves with military experinces,becouse they were set up outside of Ife's territories,(Ibadan),..and soon Ife would find out that they would have competition for the control of this military-contract-camp...to be continued.Dr.Zaragemca
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Postby zaragenca » Tue May 29, 2007 7:06 pm

..Continuation.The reasons what I said that Oyo people were not Yorubas could be stated as following; The people of Oyo which later moved to several cities in Yorubaland, (including Ibadan),had several opportunities to embrace the Yorubas religion but they refused...After Oramiyan was out of Oyo,and the Nupe/worrior,Shango,took the territory back to the Nupe/Kingdom,the territory became a fight betweent the Nupe/Kingdom and Borgu-Confederacy and later the Fulanis Muslims,(and the Yorubas stayed out of it).The resources for those fight were coming from,..Borgu,Bussa,Nikki,Wawa,Illo,Kaiama,Gbogun,I koyi,Kano,Gwandu,Kumo,Offa,etc which were of Hausas Muslims roots....In around 1530's,the Alaafin of Oyo,Onigboni,attempted to introduce the worship of Ifa and the ceremonies,but it was rejected by the Oyo Mesy,(they didn't want to be subjected religiously to Ile Ife and fiscally to Benin City)...They have more Muslims influence than anything else,Atiba,Afonja,Amodo,Opeangbe,Latoosa,Arowusi,F ajimi,etc., were leaders of Oyo and Ibadan which were Muslims,and other leaders in Ibadan became Christians,(Bolude,Kukomi,Akinyele,Babatunde,etc.) ...Samuel Johnson,(which studied the Old Oyo),didn't find any evidence of Yorubas ceremonies,(Ogboni),or setting of Ifa/Oracle in the Old Oyo empire,(before they were forced to move to Yorubaland by the Fulanis Muslims)....They didn't have the Yorubas mark which was established in order to recognize Yorubas throuth the territory...I observed the drawing-pictures of the drums which were been used in Oyo and in Ibadan, (early on), and the drums resamblace the Araras drums,(they didn't know how to make Batas at all)..In Ibadan, there was another opportunity to embrace the religion when the Oyo people started moving there,but after they were out numbering the rest of the people,they forced the Egbas out of Ibadan and later did fight with the military/slaves from Ife,(Gbadamu war),which were the original military-slaves setting the Military Contract Camp in Ibadan,(Lagelo,Okunade,Labosinde,Lakanle,etc...to be continued.Dr.Zaragemca
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