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Claves & Katas uploaded

Postby Derbeno » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:27 am

I uploaded a clip with Yambu, Guagaunco and Coumbia Clave, followed by 17 Kata patterns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9FefxlBLcU

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Re: Claves & Katas uploaded

Postby KidCuba » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:54 pm

Thank you!
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Re: Claves & Katas uploaded

Postby congamyk » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:28 pm

Thanks D
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Postby jorge » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:10 pm

Mostly a very useful collection of variations on the guagua or cata part. Thank you. A couple of comments.

First, this very concise presentation of many different variations of cata parts could be misunderstood to encourage variation of the cata part within a single song. Not recommended. The cata forms the time clock base for all the other drummers and singers to work off of. Most guaguanco, columbia and yambu are complex enough that a solid home base is necessary to hold down the rhythm and provide a reference for everyone. That base is provided by the combination of the clave and the cata parts. Clave generally plays the same pattern for the whole song without ever changing. It can be very disruptive if the cata part changes or tries to improvise, and this is best avoided or done only very rarely, scrupulously in clave, and in a place where everyone can follow. If you get bored playing cata, learn how to sing coro (or lead) at the same time as keeping rock solid time on the cata. I guarantee you that will not be boring.

Second, in variations #4 and #5, the cata part crosses the clave. The first 3 cata parts and then 6 to 17 are 3/2 using the usual nonCuban terminology to identify the order of the 2 measures of clave. Cata variation #4 is, in that terminology, 3/3, placing a bombo beat in each of the 2 measures of clave, giving almost a tresillo feel that is out of clave. Variation #5 is 2/2, and has no bombo beat in either measure. If people are really playing and singing in clave, unless they are true masters, this is guaranteed to cause confusion and throw off the song. Pedrito, Roman and Mauricio might get away with it because they can fit almost anything in and still keep singing in clave, but it will throw normal people for a loop.
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