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Re: What to play on Footprints?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:57 am
by davidpenalosa
congamyk wrote:The original version of Footprints was released on Shorter's "Apple Apple" in 1966.


Thanks for the correction. Is that version similar to the on on Miles Smiles?
-David

Re: What to play on Footprints?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:25 pm
by blavonski
congamyk wrote:
davidpenalosa wrote:The original version on Miles Smiles has the bass (Ron Carter) and drums (Tony Williams) going in and out of 12/8 and 4/4 (click on the chart below):


The original version of Footprints was released on Shorter's "Apple Apple" in 1966.


That's Adam's Apple.
Also, it is very different in my opinion from the original, which I think is obvious to anyone who listens to both versions. It is molded in the typical Miles davis form of skeletal, Bop phrasing, but the tune is not a Bop tune....miles rarely if ever played or recorded for that matter another Composer's melody straight, or correctly if you will. And this version seems to me to be what JC's version is departing liberally from here, where the opening melodic statement has a more choppy, BeBop feel than the more lyrical (singing) feeling of Shorter's post Bop original. I prefer the original.

GV,
Blavonski

Re: What to play on Footprints?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:55 pm
by JohnnyConga
Thank you for your constructive criticism,David. The drum part has been a problem and we are gonna do it over again with also with a different sounding snare as well and see what happens then...and to understand why I did it this way was to NOT copy the original, and in a very small way 'make it mine'...as far as my rhythmic approach ...and HOW i heard to be played...and this is a tune I have played thousands of times over the years..so I just heard it differently over time...this arrangement is also shared my my long time homey from the Bronx, sax/flute/arranger Clarion Diaz ...if you need charts or anything like that...u can find Clarion on Facebook...more to come!...TKS GUYS!...

Re: What to play on Footprints?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:37 pm
by congamyk
davidpenalosa wrote:
congamyk wrote:The original version of Footprints was released on Shorter's "Apple Apple" in 1966.

Is that version similar to the on on Miles Smiles?
-David

http://youtu.be/3XvJFW0DHbU

Sorry for writing apple twice.... "Adam's Apple", I've owned the album for 30 years.
I like Wayne's original version much better. Maybe because it features the tenor so prominently. :D

Check out my favorite versions
Madlib
http://grooveshark.com/s/Footprints/2VMzIb?src=5

Ron Carter
http://grooveshark.com/s/Footprints/4gRsJs?src=5

Giovanni
http://grooveshark.com/s/Footprints/3Ls0dV?src=5

Re: What to play on Footprints?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:03 am
by davidpenalosa
Cool versions.