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Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:43 am
by Tonio
Check this out !! Orestes has a new album this year !!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=84921830

T

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:51 am
by congaDR
ooooooo.... yea!

...been waiting for this since 1967 :D

by the way... who's on congas? John?

Tony

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:46 am
by Tonio
yup long wait for an Orestes album.
Joey DeLeon on congas, Johnny Rodriguez on bongo.

hey , you have to watch the video Tony. They list everyone but the horns, sans Justo.

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Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:13 pm
by afrocubarico
Tonio,
Good lookin out on this one! I salivated just thinking of playing this on my home theater system, lol! This sounds like it'll definitely be a gem. Btw, the conguero, Joey De Leon, is a great percussionist. I've seen him with Poncho Sanchez several times on bongos but I've also seen him play tambores. Very impressive.

afrocubarico

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:39 pm
by Tonio
afrocubarico,
Yeah its should be a good one, a long time wait for Orestes !!

I saw Joey w/ Poncho too. On bongos, but he did play tambores on one tune. Just timbao for backing up the Poncho "showcase" of course. Joey does have the pyrotechniques in repetoire, which I don't really strive for, so anticipating to see the "real stuff". We will see!

T

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:22 am
by Tonio
Well, I finally got the CD mi pana !!

Great work and good choices of repertoire.

Johnny "Dandy" is on 4 cuts and makes it complete.

Rebecca Mauleon makes a killer solo on the only 1 track she is on followed by a killer solo by Orestes !! Somehow it feels like he's nervous ? Great nonetheless !!

Go get it bros !!

T

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:33 am
by Tonio
ooh yeah, track 8 - Remembering Ray (Baretto) is the best so far Descarga jam !! everyone solos!!

T

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:29 pm
by Omelenko1
The whole CD is amazing. Orestes is the best timbalero on the planet and one of the best bongoceros. Dandy has been on top for over 30 yrs. The sonero , Adonis Puentes, is also very good, "muy callejero", streetwise, which is the #1 attribute for a good sonero. Definitely album of the year candidate. Tremendo afinque!

Dario :D

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:56 pm
by Thomas Altmann
Orestes is the best timbalero on the planet ...


You are a man of strong convictions, Dario. Although I would never in my life utter such a statement, I don't see why I should object in this particular case. People like Orestes will always stand like the Untouchables among the most amazing new superdrummers. He never plays a wrong note.

I just ordered the CD. Thank you, Tonio!

Thomas

BTW: Orestes is one of my favourite bongoceros, too.

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:16 pm
by Tonio
[quote="Thomas Altmann
BTW: Orestes is one of my favourite bongoceros, too.[/quote]

Agreed, Orestes is great on bongos. Not flashy, but nice eloquent old school style.

T

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:04 pm
by TONE74
Nice CD, thanks for the heads up. So far I'm really digging La Mulata Rumbera, Las Boinas De Cachao, and Remembering Ray. I gotta say its good all around though.
Is Carlos del Puerto jr. the son of the bass player from Irakere by the same name? He did a nice job on upright, as well as everyone else of course.

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:59 pm
by Omelenko1
In 1980 Orestes returned to Cuba (his homeland) for a visit. During the short visit he gave clinics on timbal, he sat in with the likes of Pello El Afrokan. Cuba had turned its back on timbal and bongo' during the mid 60's and throughout the 70's, stating: "el timbal y el bongo' estan fuera de moda", (timbales and bongos are outdated and old fashion). These clinics held in Cuba by Orestes and subsequently by Nicky Marrero, were the determining factor in bringing back the timbal and bongo' to the spotlight in Cuban music. There is a video of Changuito, Amadito Valdes and Emilio Del Monte giving Oretses the credit for reviving the interest of the timbal in Cuba. These guys subsequently made the transition from trap set to timbales and Orestes was the man responsible.

Dario

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:17 pm
by ABAKUA
Orestes is a smokin hot Timbalero. One of my favourites, followed closely by Ralph Irizarry (his work with timbalaye was amazing) anyway there is a CD called "Cuba L.A" with Orestes on timbal, Luis Conte on congas, Michito Sanchez on bongo, Carlos del Puero Jnr on bass, and other greats, on the first track 'El Dulcerito' Orestes performs one of the all time best timbale solos ever. It is my personal favourite solo on timbal, also does a killer solo in the last track 'Sandunga-Mandinga-Mondongo'.

Cant wait to get this latest CD. 8)

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:31 pm
by Thomas Altmann
Hi Dario,

Cuba had turned its back on timbal and bongo' during the mid 60's and throughout the 70's ...


I had heard about this in the 80's, to my regret.

These clinics held in Cuba by Orestes and subsequently by Nicky Marrero, were the determining factor in bringing back the timbal and bongo' to the spotlight in Cuban music. There is a video of Changuito, Amadito Valdes and Emilio Del Monte giving Oretses the credit for reviving the interest of the timbal in Cuba. These guys subsequently made the transition from trap set to timbales and Orestes was the man responsible.


Wow, I didn't know that! That's really remarkable. Now I understand your assessment much better. Thanks for the info!!

@ABAKUA:

One of my favourites, followed closely by Ralph Irizarry ...


Speaking about personal preference, I agree with you. In my opinion however, Ralph Irizarry belongs more to the "new breed" of drummers, relying rather on modern rhythmic concepts than either on, what I call the "Quinto concept", or on the Charanga/Danzón school, although I'm sure he can cover that, too. But of all the modern guys out there, Ralph is my favorite.

Nicky Marrero, yeah! - Check out his solo voice on "Repicao" by Don Gonzalo Fernandez. Or his time-keeping with Palmieri ("Nada de ti"). He lived in Hamburg once for a short period. He always held Orestes in great respect.

I also like Jimmy Delgado. Manny Oquendo is another big favorite of mine. And all of these timbaleros are accomplished bongo players as well!

That's why I would always be reluctant to call any one "the best timbalero on the planet".

Never forget Tito -

Thomas

Re: Orestes Vilato !!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:56 pm
by Tonio
ABAKUA wrote: anyway there is a CD called "Cuba L.A" with Orestes on timbal, Luis Conte on congas, Michito Sanchez on bongo, Carlos del Puero Jnr on bass, and other greats, on the first track 'El Dulcerito' Orestes performs one of the all time best timbale solos ever. It is my personal favourite solo on timbal, also does a killer solo in the last track 'Sandunga-Mandinga-Mondongo'.

Cant wait to get this latest CD. 8)


I forgot about that one, that Cd is awesome. Thanks for the reminder Abakua!!

T