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Todays lesson 5 Lug or 4 lug what really the best

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:19 am
by Anonimo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:45 pm
by b0ng0
thanks for the lesson cuco.. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:08 am
by MedinaNYC
yes, muchas gracias como siempre cuco

Re: Todays lesson 5 Lug or 4 lug what really the best

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:38 pm
by Ernesto Pediangco
Great Topic Bro ! Personally, I have no issue w/ 4 lug bongos since I use solid rims that evenly distribute the tensions of tuning & I posture my self & my bongo lugs where it is comfortable. But still, pressure on the thighs will still be pressure. In 1987 ( I believe ), I built my own low stance bongo stand using a Rogers snare stand tripod & attachments to a bongo mount. This worked well, to brace the drums and allow me a quick standing & quick sitting at the bongo chair with out dropping or rolling the bongos to the floor. I later used a better internal bongo shell mount to a better stand using drum shop hard wares that was even more secure, had a quick release and allowed some flexible suspension of the shells instead of a rigid solid mount to the tripod. My drum adjust more than typical stands today. Perhaps some one copied me ? I do not know...but I have always experimented in my own bongo stands and did so for many tears before Asian made models came to market. Mine is simply better & solves the ergonomic issues and does not require lots of bracing hard wares. I like things simple, strong & light weight. We really do not need more hard wares to carry do we ? I once owned some 3 lug bongos that were sold in Slingerland catalogs. They were smaller shells but the position of 3 lugs was great. A modern design that preserves the heads, tune quickly & evenly can be done. Its quite easy actually. But old designs are not going to accomplish this. 5 lugs...to me...is a step in the wrong direction. I 'd rather correct the old designs for 4 lug bongos first & move to a superior 3 lug design. These are things I keep to myself until I can protect my design innovations...but I know it can be done...I have done it ! :) But...as with all things about drumming...its a matter of what a drummer can live with & get the job done. All options are valid & good. But if a drum ever fails me ...there is usually a mechanical or structural failure. I only give them 1 chance...I never buy a brand or product that does not do what it is designed to do. A drum should never need replacement parts except the heads, maybe a few washers ! My simple remedy for bongo comfort is to use a padding as cushion on the bongo shells that also give friction so the shells do not slide on my pants. I put lots of work into perfecting my hard ware designs to eliminate these problems that are caused by tuning systems designed in the 1950's ! It's 2011 now ! I have solved the issue to my satisfaction. :)

Re: Todays lesson 5 Lug or 4 lug what really the best

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:13 pm
by RitmoBoricua
<< A drum should never need replacement parts except the heads, maybe a few washers !>>

I do not buy this Ernesto. Drums are like so many things sooner or later the wear and tear catch-up with them. Specially the lugs and nuts, metal on metal. Lubrication only go so far. The crown ears is another part that tend to fail under all the torque and forget about wood. If you are a player that gigs a lot with your own axe you will be replacing parts or replacing the drum altogether no way around it.