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Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby flaco999 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:18 pm

Why do some Arara songs start on the 5th beat of the one side of the clave.

It works great when playing with hand claps , but is kind of wierd to sing to the bell and drum parts.

Do most songs start on the 5th beat (ie. Eyatimbo yatambo, Agomado, Saragode ) ?

I know Merewotimbo starts on the Bombo .
I have yet to see one song starting on the 1 LOL
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby bongosnotbombs » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:20 pm

I always thought the intent was to play the bell pattern one full time to set the cadence for
everyone, and then the drums and song begin?
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby flaco999 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:49 pm

I did not know that , yet don't you think that the 5th beat of the 1 side is a weird place?
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby bongosnotbombs » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:19 pm

It's a little unusual, I think it depends on where the drums start to speak,
or play their open tones.
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby congaDR » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:56 pm

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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby flaco999 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:52 pm

Oh shit????

Is that Bush plotting a Dr invasion for 2012 . LOL :?
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby windhorse » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:11 am

We sing the Asoyin - Agomado and Sarago songs starting on the first double of the bell, or the 3 pulse.

Interesting that you're saying it's on another beat.
One of my favorite mind benders comes from the CD Asyoyi by Lazaro Ros - trying to sing Ferekete Mayinoma Mayinokan Ferekete.... So that it starts on the four pulse. Ouch! It hides the one so well, that if you're playing bell, the four becomes your one.. Totally deadly.. I love it! :D

So, in support of the question in the original post, that's one of the most intriguing reasons for my own pursuit in attempting to learn this music.
The rhythmic tricks played by all of the parts, including the song and how they hide or diversify the beat. It's so wonderful,, Each song is like a diamond!
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby flaco999 » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:16 pm

Arara songs are like Canary Diamonds huh? :D

Yo , I love your web page w/ the Cuban and Haitian transcriptions , it brought back great memories of John Amira lessons.
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby windhorse » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:37 pm

flaco999 wrote:Arara songs are like Canary Diamonds huh? :D
Yo , I love your web page w/ the Cuban and Haitian transcriptions , it brought back great memories of John Amira lessons.


Yes they are Flaco! Thanks for noticing the stuff on my site. You never know what people take from them. I figure it's worth it if even one person benefited.
Here's a sound clip I made today of Ferekete transcribed from Lazaro Ros's Osayin.
You were pointing out about song starting on the 5th strike of of the 7 strike 6/8 bell, and here's a good example. I sang it with the bell once, then dubbed the 3rd, 5th, and akpon last.

http://mrcrowder.us/cong/Ferekete.mp3
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Re: Cantos Arara and where the song starts

Postby flaco999 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:47 pm

Windhorse,
That was nice !!!
I havn't heard that song , but that song might go with Arara Majino ?
I learned it from John Amira and it comes from the Baro family in Matanzas who are famous for playing Arara.

Great vocals!!!
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