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Posted: **Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:32 pm**

I'm pretty new to congas and could use some help. I'm jamming with a friend's band and we are playing the saong "Sabor a mi" What would be a good pattern to use in this song? I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks

Posted: **Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:06 pm**

Aloha johnny,
I would suggest a Bolero movement, sound's nice.
You can add your own variation's to this movement also..
Played at a slow tempo, like a Ballad.

p t s t p Ô o Ô 2 bar's

L L R L L R R R or

L L R L L R L R

P=palm p=First drum
T= tip t= First drum
S=slap s= First drum
o= First drum
Ô= Second drum

L= Left Hand
R= Right Hand

Hope this help's you out!
Aloha,
RumBa808

Edited By RumBa808 on 1090436342

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:21 pm**

While we're discussing rhythms of particular songs...
I was listening to Grant Green's "Latin Bit", which has Patato Valdez on congas. Anyway, they do a rendition of Besame Mucho, and I was wondering if anyone recognized the rhythm at the beginning and the end that Patato is playing. However, most of the song he plays the swung tumbao.
Any help or comments is appreciated.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:36 pm**

Hello...the rhythm as I know it comes from a Bata pattern, the double headed drum,you play on your lap. It is also called "orisa" and "santo" rhythm. In Latin American terms it used to be called "the beguine". Duun dun dindin duundun din, is what it kinda sounds like. Counted .. one and two and three and four- 1 +2+ 3+ 4 1 +2+ 3+ 4.....try it out with all tones first, then try to mix in some slaps and tones. Let me know how it turns out....PS I have that Grant Green album....JC JOHNNY CONGA.... :;):

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Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:14 am**

Thanks for the info J.C. I'll check out the pattern again

I bought that album before I ever thought about playing the conga, which is recent. I really dug GG's late sixties (early 70's?) stuff...the album "Alive" says it all..."Latin Bit" had to grow on me, though...its clean and easy to listen to and hear what everybody's doing. After getting a conga I went through all my music to see what had congas on it and realizing that it had Patato playing on it...I "rediscovered" the album...(I've also started relistening to a Marc Ribot album, Ive had 5 or 6 years...it sounds better now!)

-Furley

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:24 pm**

I've played the song "Sabor a Mi" many times with singer/timbalero
Jimmy Sabater and also with singer Adela Dalto.
We usually do it as a "Bolero-Cha" which switches between
bolero and a slower than usual cha cha cha in different sections. It could also start as a Bolero, go to a Son Montuno, and then back to the Bolero. Try it out!

Isaac
Funky Tradition Percussion

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:32 pm**

PS.. THE attached photo is of the late great Julito Collazo and Patato at a place in the Bronx I used to hang out called the "Mediterranean Lounge" where there was Rumba every weekend or some latin band....JC JOHNNY CONGA...

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