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Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:04 pm**

hey guys
i have to record 2 songs in the studio
the songs are :Ojos Asi (Shakira) and Can't Get You Out of My Head(Kylie Minogue)
they want me to put Conga and bongos into these 2 songs
so since its my first time to the studios
any suggestions for Rythms and tips ?

Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:42 pm**

What type of music it is?,in relation to 'miking' the sound-technicians should have related experience.

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Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:07 pm**

Well if your talkin Shakira and Kylie Minogue, your talking "pop" patterns or some kind of what we played in the early 70's is "disco' rhythms. The engineer should know how to mic the congas, I would recommned micing the bongos from underneath. ...At your Service...JC JOHNNY CONGA... :;):

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:20 am**

Johnny Conga wrote:Well if your talkin Shakira and Kylie Minogue, your talking "pop" patterns or some kind of what we played in the early 70's is "disco' rhythms. The engineer should know how to mic the congas, I would recommned micing the bongos from underneath. ...At your Service...JC JOHNNY CONGA... :;):

well in the early 70's mm let me think i guess i wasnt there to remember

any specific rythms you recomend me to play ?

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:16 am**

Shakira has such great rhythm that the congas will almost play themselves for you. If the songs are 4/4, use tumbao variations for your base line and let your hands do the rest. You will probably want to work in sixteenth note variations with her music.

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:49 pm**

But the situation is to clarified which Tumbao is going to be use,if it is Pop music the one used for the Cha-cha,would work good on it,if it is Rock,then that's somerhing else.

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Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:20 pm**

well i guess since the song for Shakira(Ojos Asi) doesnt have a slow temp maybe montuno would be good with the mix with oriental rythms

as for Kylie minogue's song i'm still confused

Posted: **Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:45 am**

Ok here goes a disco pattern for you on congas using my method---T-tone S-slap

RLR LRL RLR LR LR LR L
TTS TTS TTS TT SSTT S....REPEAT RLR LRL etc.....try it and tell me if it works..and try it at different tempos, this is also a good warm up excersize for both hand because you have to alternate the movement....At your Service......JC JOHNNY CONGA........... :;):

Posted: **Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:45 pm**

Johnny Conga wrote:Ok here goes a disco pattern for you on congas using my method---T-tone S-slap

RLR LRL RLR LR LR LR L
TTS TTS TTS TT SSTT S....REPEAT RLR LRL etc.....try it and tell me if it works..and try it at different tempos, this is also a good warm up excersize for both hand because you have to alternate the movement....At your Service......JC JOHNNY CONGA........... :;):

10ks for the rythm but plz can u tell me what are the notes(which one is the sixteen's and which one is eight's?)

Posted: **Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:14 pm**

That type of full range rumba pattern of Johnny,works perfectly for Disco-Music,(that's why I always asked what genre of music is involved).Gilbert the Tones are 16th's and the slap could setting as syncopated 8th note.

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Posted: **Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:40 am**

Sorry Zaragmeca but my pattern is not a rumba pattern it is a pattern "I" created during the "disco" era while I was touring with Gloria Gaynor. If your thinking this is the "marcha" for rumba this is not it.....At your Service...JC JOHNNY CONGA... :;):

Posted: **Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:37 pm**

Well brother Johnny,I don't doubt you creative skills,but that pattern was also used in the Comparsas(Carnivals),by the conga players which was called at ritmo the Conga)'full range rumba',becouse the speed at which the congero have to play that pattern,Desi Arnez ( which used to play with Xavier Cugat Orquesta), introduced the pattern in the TV Show,'I love Lucy'(50's).

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Posted: **Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:28 pm**

Sorry again brother I. know the comparsa pattern of what you speak. It is close to the pattern I put in my post.
The pattern of which you speak is
1 anda 2 anda 3 anda 4 anda
SS TT SS TT.....MY PATTERN AGAIN IS
RLR LRL RLR LRLRLRLR....
TTS TTS TTS TTSSTTS/......GOT IT?.....PaZ....JC JOHNNY CONGA...

Posted: **Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:33 pm**

Brother Zaragemca....Miguelito Valdes was the one who "introduced" the "Conga" to America before Desi. Miguelito Valdes IS the "original" "Mr. Babalu", that is historical fact here in the USA. Desi may have made it "popular" because of the whole Hollywood thing, but every true historian knows about Miguelito and Desi. Desi contributed nothing to the Cuban musical scene here in the states back then. Miguelito was with Xavier Cugat even before Desi was even in hollywood....At your Service...JC JOHNNY CONGA.... :;):

Posted: **Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:30 pm**

Yes,yes,I do agree with you I only mention Desi as reference to the rhythms I was talking about becouse people would relate easy to him through the show(that's why I didn't mention that in the original post).The situation is there were several Comparsas at that time with differents percutive patterns all working around the Rumba base,I remember one of them,Los Guaracheros de Regla, with that percutive pattern of two tones and one slap following.

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