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Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:50 amby RayBoogie
				Can someone explain RUDIMENTS to me?  What are the hand strokes exactly?  Is it when you do a heel-tip motion on both of your hands, repetitively?
I discussed with someone this past weekend and they said something to the contrary.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:40 amby martin
				Rudiments are the techniques from snare drumming like paradiddles,single and double rolls and such-like.
Some people have applied them to hand drums (eg giovanni hidalgo)
 
have a look at
http://www.iwaynet.net/~bjacoby/
look for  'the stoned hand-drum' applying drum rudiments to hand drums
good luck
martin
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:02 pmby JohnnyConga
				There are 26 standard Rudiments you can learn and there are books on them. I checked out the sight mentioned above and I find it to be very good format for learning to play. ....JC JOHNNY CONGA.... 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:15 pmby RitmoBoricua
				Guest wrote:Rudiments are the techniques from snare drumming like paradiddles,single and double rolls and such-like.
Some people have applied them to hand drums (eg giovanni hidalgo) 
have a look at
http://www.iwaynet.net/~bjacoby/look for  'the stoned hand-drum' applying drum rudiments to hand drums
good luck
martin
 
I checked out the website and I thought I was in some kind of ET, X-Files deal. What's up with the "Alien" is he/she/it some kind of extraterrestial "Rumbero" or something...He He He He 
 
Edited By RitmoBoricua on Nov. 12 2003 at 16:17
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:55 amby RayBoogie
				Thanks guys.
So tell me, what exactly is the heel-tip motion on both hands repetitively?  It makes a "chuga -chuga" sound.  And no, it's not a train (lol).
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:32 pmby Peter Suwalski
				The chucu chuca sound you´re referring to is probably the palm/tip movement of the left hand.
It is made by playing a basstroke, and then, while letting the heel of your hand stay on the drum, "clapping" the drum with your flat hand. The last stroke is also called a fingertip stroke, even though you use a lot more than just your finger tips for that stroke.
I would strongly recommend that you get in touch with someone who already plays congas/tumbadoras, as your questions indicates that you have problems identificating the common techniques used in congaplaying.
It will be much more rewarding, than those small bits of info you can obtain through this board.
Best regards.
Peter S.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:35 pmby Peter Suwalski
				I forgot to add my website 
http://www.suwalski.com.
Best regards peter.
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:41 pmby zaragemca
				The technique(heel-tips) was incorporated in the basic Tumbao as fill in,later as a distintive double beat with accentuation with one of the hands,could be a warm up( when done it with both hands),and also as showmanship when doing solos(alternating the other hand between the Conga and Tumba) if one hand is place in the Quinto to do this technique.
Edited By zaragemca on Nov. 13 2003 at 16:55
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:59 pmby Tonio
				RitmoBoricua wrote:Guest wrote:Rudiments are the techniques from snare drumming like paradiddles,single and double rolls and such-like.
Some people have applied them to hand drums (eg giovanni hidalgo) 
have a look at
http://www.iwaynet.net/~bjacoby/look for  'the stoned hand-drum' applying drum rudiments to hand drums
good luck
martin
 
I checked out the website and I thought I was in some kind of ET, X-Files deal. What's up with the "Alien" is he/she/it some kind of extraterrestial "Rumbero" or something...He He He He 

 
Nah,
He's just the keeper of mano secreta LOL
T
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:21 pmby JohnnyConga
				RAY ...i call it the "double(2) hand shuffle or a type of "marcha" that Los Munequitos do in the very beginning of some of their guaguanco arrangements. It is played like this:
Heel Heel tip tip 
right left  right left and you "shuffle" the hands. got it? Good....Paz...JC JOHNNY CONGA.... 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:23 pmby JohnnyConga
				Welcome Peter...can you tells us a bit about you? And believe me there is more information here than you can imagine.....At your Srvice... JC JOHNNY CONGA....www.shogigs.com/johnnyconga/index.html 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:31 pmby JohnnyConga
				That's showgigs with a w ...sorry bout that...jc
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:01 amby RayBoogie
				JC, that exactly what I'm talking about.  A lot of congueros uses that form before doing the guaguanco.  Is it an intro to a track or is it some form of exercise? ???
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:29 pmby zaragemca
				It could be used as 'Signature' opening,I use it as warm up for flexibility.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:30 pmby Tonio
				Its used alot to get everyone in time, and used as a intro as zaragemca says. Also it is good to get warmed up" excercise".
It can also be part of a solo or other expression of performance.
I personally use it to warm up and get those wrists and hands
flexible an use it in solos -add open tones with one hand etc..
T